In this episode of the Strong Conversations Podcast – Building the Brand Series, host Sam Marcoux sits down with Rob and Travis Kerrick, the father-son team at the heart of United Production Framing. With nearly 70 years of combined experience, the Kerricks have helped shape thousands of homes across Southern California—and their story is as much about family as it is about construction. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: - How Rob and Travis’s personal bond translated into professional success - Rob’s journey from loading lumber at 15 to being one of the first to install Simpson’s original Strong-Wall - How Travis went from pursuing kinesiology to discovering his passion in construction management - Why their family-like approach to business has helped create lasting industry relationships - Their perspective on what’s next for framing and the growing role of innovation and technology Whether they’re racing trophy trucks in Baja or managing multi-family builds, the Kerricks bring energy, trust, and respect to everything they do. This episode is a conversation about legacy—what it means to build homes, careers, and community together.
NAME: ROB & TRAVIS KERRICK
(SM) Welcome back to another episode of strong conversations. My name is Sam Marcoux and this is the Building the Brand series and we have a little bit of a family affair here ladies and gentlemen. We have Rob and Travis Kerrick. How are you guys doing today?
(TC) Great. Thank you.
(SM) You guys you guys you guys awake?
(TC) We're there. We're getting there, yeah.
(SM) You guys just came back from the Baja 1000, right?
(TC) Yes. Yep.
(SM) So how was that? It was fun.
(TC) It was fun. It was a good time,. You know Baja is a different, you know? So I do race trophy trucks down there
(SM) Yeah.
(TC) And so we were down there for 10 days and did really good. We finished. So it was an accomplishment.
(SM) It's kind of like a marathon, right? Running a marathon is like, did you finish first, no, but I finished and that's like the top 1 % of all racers we're running on. But yeah, just finishing is quite the accomplishment
(RC) Yeah
(SM) Awesome. How long have you guys been into racing?
(RC) I've been in it since 1975. I used to race motorcycles when I was growing up and then that got me into off -road racing and as a matter of fact, the night that I graduated high school, my truck was loaded up with tires and fuel and I drove straight from graduation to the Bob 500.
(SM) No kidding.
(RC) And pitted for a guy named Bill Edwards at the time and then I've been into it ever since and then dragging him down there. His birthday is January 5th, a June 5th, and that's every year at the ball 500s at that time. Okay, so he spent all his birthday down in Baja. Yep, his mom didn't like that, but we did. So he's been involved in our off-road racing since he was a child, and motorcycle racing, so. [01:30]
(SM) Oh, very cool. We're gonna, we're gonna talk a little bit more about that, but I guess I should probably give you guys your proper introduction. So this is Rob & Travis Kerrick, father, son duo here, working for UPF, United Production Framing, and we're here to talk to you guys because you guys have been so influential in the framing of a lot of just houses and units in Southern California in particular. You guys have had some really unique things happen in your career and the way you guys, not only are you family, but your co-workers, your colleagues, and the bond that you guys have is something we're going to explore on this conversation here today. So we're gonna start with Rob. Rob, when did you get started in the construction industry? Did you always know you wanted to be in it, or was it something you fell into, or how did that happen for you?
(RC) Actually, my father owned his own construction company, and god from the time I was nine years old, he would take me in the summers, and I'd work for him and then when I was in high school, my mom and father got divorced when I was like 13 and when I was in high school, I started working for Western Lumber down in San Diego and I was a load builder, so I would build loads for framers that would come in and pick up materials and stuff like that. I drove a forklift, built the loads, and then I would be the ones that would load them into their trucks or trailers. Well, I met a guy named Neil Campbell of Tone (sp?) Builders, and well, he owned Tone (sp?) Builders, but at the time he didn’t and he was building custom homes and asked me, Hey, you want a job? You want a real job? So I started in the industry very little. I mean at a very young age.
(SM) How old are you when that happened? You were 13 at the lumberyard?
(RC) Well, no, no, I was 15 when I started working for the lumberyard. So I was probably 16, 17 years old.
(SM) Okay
(RC) And started working for him and, um, just started, that's where I started my career with him, building custom homes all over San Diego and great guy, very, very knowledgeable, taught me a lot. Yeah and then from there I went into production framing and I've been doing it ever since.
(SM) And doing it well. I mean, I know in talking to Travis, your start, you were not planning on going into the construction industry originally, right?
(TC) No, definitely not.
(SM) What were you gonna do?
(TC) Yeah, so I mean, kind of didn't want to follow the footsteps of you know my dad. So I was like, you know what? I'm gonna be a kinesiologist. So I'm gonna go work for sports teams. I want to be a physical therapist.
(SM) Yeah. [03:42]
(TC) You know, some type of doctor degree. So I started doing that route. Then I got kind of burnt out quick in college. So. I said, huh, all right, well, now what's next? And so he gave me a call and said, hey, I need some help. Would you be interested in doing it? You know, and I was, you know, kind of starting a family and just got married. I said, yeah, I want a Monday through Friday job. So I started working and doing estimating.
(SM) And was it at that time, it was kind of like, all right, I'll do this for now and then I'll get back to doing or finding my way and then ultimately fell in love with it.
(TC) Yeah, ultimately, yeah, I kind of jumped into it, said, "All right, I'll do it." You know, and I started doing it a little bit more and oh this was kind of fun. Going to all events, networking, meeting different people, you know, all different trades. Okay, I kind of like this and then I was like, you know what? I'm going to career path change, started going to school for construction management and then I went, did that full-time, just had a daughter and I was going to school full-time, working full-time. It was pretty challenging.
(SM) Where'd you go to school?
(TC) Indiana State University.
(SM) Indiana State University.
(TC) Yeah, so everything was online.
(SM) Okay, yep. I was going to say that's a little bit further away from Southern California.
(TC) A little bit, yeah
(SM) All right, so have you guys always worked together since you came into the industry? Have you guys always worked for the same company?
(TC) No, no, we actually worked together for, what, two, three years?
(RC) Yeah.
(TC) Yeah, previously and then when that company was dissolved and go went back to Vegas, we kind of went our separate paths and that's what I went to United Production Framing.
(SM) Yeah, so what do you guys do for UPF now? What are you guys' official titles?
(TC) So I'm the estimating sales manager. So I do all the bids all the estimating goes through me and my team.
(SM) Rob?
[05:17]
(RB) I'm the operations manager for the multifamily division.
(SM) Okay.
(RB) So I do nothing but the multifamily just from start to finish throughout the entire job.
(SM) You know, it's fascinating because, you know, we have some colleagues and Travis, you and I had met before actually at a trade show earlier this year. Rob, is the first time you and I are meeting in person, but in talking to mutual friends and colleagues, they remark how close you guys are as a family unit, right? Father and son working together. We were talking off air. If I'm around my sisters more than maybe 12 hours. Like, we're filing to adopt a new family. Like, we need to be away from each other. Like, we love each other, but from a distance, right? You guys, not only obviously raising him and grew up with him, but you're working together. Obviously, maybe different departments, but that is a unique set of challenge or is it a challenge for you guys to work together? 'Cause it sounds like you guys are just two peas in a pod.
(RC) Well, you know, I can speak for that. Growing up, I coached his little league team, so we've always been close doing things together.
(TC) Yeah.
(RC) Little league, racing motorcycles, you know, whatever, we've always been together doing everything and then when he went into high school, he was in water polo and swim and I was the... aquatics…what was I? The manager?
(TC) You're like equipment manager.
(RC) Equipment manager or something throughout that so I was very close with him and not only with the boys team, but the girls team, we were all together. The kids were always at our house. They all hung out at our house. We all went out to dinner all the time. So they pretty much hung out at our house all the time. It's all his friends were my friends, my friends were his friends and that's just the way it's been since we grew up and then when he, or when he grew up, and then when he was working for me the first time, I started introducing him to people. I know a lot of people. It’s a business I’ve been in a long time.
(SM) Sure.
(RC) So he started getting introduced to them and so it's funny the way things have evolved where they were all my best friends and now they're all his best friends, you know? So it's good and we've never…we were talking about it offline. We've never had a disagreement about anything. I mean, we discuss things, we figure it out and I go to him for some knowledge 'cause now he's in the office and I'm in the field so I need to check with him for some certain thing, but now we've always just worked good together, never had any disagreements. [07:35]
(TC) Yeah, I don't know why, I really don't know why. Yeah, we look at things differently, right? I'm kind of the new age, you know, more technology driven and I see things differently than he does 'cause he's more old school and sees things like “no, that's the way it used to be”. “Well, that's not the way it is now”
(SM) Right.
(TC) You know, that doesn't work all the time. We gotta change things up a little bit.
(SM) But it's a But it's a conversation versus…
(TC) Yeah, and it's respect for both ways. You know, we go back and forth So I mean working at the previous company when I first started doing this, which was kind of nice, we literally drove to work every day together.
(SM) Wow,
(TC) You know, he picked me up or I'd pick him up and we'd drive into work. So we have an hour drive talking about work before we even got to work. Then we'd be at work for eight ten twelve hours and then an hour back, still talking about work. We just never stopped talking about work
(SM) You didn’t turn it off at all like at night? If you guys are around each other, is it still work talk or is it?
(RC) Sometimes we catch ourselves talking about work and then our wives jump in and say, "Okay, enough about work, let's talk about…you know, we don't need to talk about work."
(TC) Yeah.
(RC) We've kind of worked it out, we don't…try not to talk about it, but we end up talking about it.
(TC) Yeah, we still do.
(SM) You know, gotta be inevitable, right?
(RC) Exactly.
(SM) So what about lunch.It’s time for lunch. Do you guys argue about where to eat or anything? I'm trying to find some sort of common ground with you guys because I argue with my family all the time, but you guys you guys are just …
(RB) We like the same food.
(SM) Wow.
[08:52]
(TC) Yeah, were like the …inaudible… We don't work hand-in -hand every day together… inaudible … no not now, we used to at the previous company, like I said, we were together for 15 hours a day. Yeah, you know for three years we were together doing everything together so I learned so much knowledge from him, just on those drives, that other people don't get. You know right when you're bringing somebody in to start you know in an estimating position, you don't get…you get eight hours with them a day.
(SM) Yeah.
(TC) You don't get 15 hours a day with somebody so I was getting twice the amount of knowledge every day.
(SM) That's a great way I'm looking at it.
(TC) Yeah.
(SM) It's a really great way of looking at it.
(TC) Yep
(SM) I mean that learning curve just spiked.
(TC) Tt just spiked for me so yeah so that helped me advance my career with United Production Framing as well.
(SM) So talking about this then, because again, just kind of doing research with you guys, it appears to me that a lot of your social network, your friends, people maybe outside of work, quote unquote, are also people that you work with or work for. Is that, is that fair to say?
(RC & TC) Yes. Uh huh.
(SM) So you guys spend not only a lot of time with each other as family, but the entire industry has become your network.
(TC) Right.
(SM) In terms of …
(RC) Family.
(TC) Our family. They're our family. Yep.
(SM) Yeah, I mean, how crucial is that, do you think, to your guys' success overall? I mean is that something.
(RC) Huge. [10:10]
(SM) Yeah, why is that?
(RC) Just the relationships with everybody. When we go to a trade show, we know everybody there, other framers, other builders. Whether we're working for them or not, or they're our competition, we're all one big family. We all talk and joke around and you know just it's a good time and we all talk about you know shop.
(SM) Yeah
(RC) Shoptalk I guess you'd say, but it's it's just great. We have a great relationship and in other industries like in Vegas It's not like that. You really can't be friends with another framer I've learned.
(SM) Yeah,
(RC) Because I've worked for a couple of companies that are based in Vegas and you go over there and they're what do you mean you're talking to a frame… another framer? I go, “Well, they're my friends. Of course, I'm gonna talk to them.” But over there it's completely different. But over here in Orange, I mean, Southern California, we're all this, we all talk to each other, we talk business to about each other. It’s just completely different and it's huge having that relationship with everybody and the suppliers as well, not only builders, but suppliers. That's huge.
(SM) Well, and I see it with my colleagues down in Southern California, you can see how close they are with one another. Like I'm from Northern California, I've been in the industry probably longer than I care to admit at this point and I have friends in the industry, but there is a little bit of okay. End of the day, I'm going home and I have my friends and my family and my other life, so to speak and I talked to our buddies down here and it's like, oh no, we're hanging out this weekend. We're going on the lake, we're doing this and I'm like, that's fascinating and really cool to just see how tightknit the Southern California construction industry is. I mean, you guys really do have that, you know, camaraderie with everyone. Like you said, regardless of if they're on your team or quote unquote competitor.
(RC) Yep.
(TC) Yeah, we've been doing that for, you know, many years. I'll call somebody up and you know, being in this industry, I learned kind of…You know, before I was in the industry, right? I already knew who they were and what they did.
(SM) Right. Yeah.
(TC) Now I'm in the industry and I'm like, all right, well, now I'm using you as a work reference and a, you know the kind of relationship where I can understand what you're doing now. You know, before I was just like, “Oh, hey, you want to go hang out at the lake”, you know? So now it's kind of that both, and I’ve built that friendship with a lot of other people here.
[12:10]
(SM) Do you find, for lack of a better term, deals or business gets done after hours a lot of times because of just how much you guys are working with other people, like, hey, we have a project coming up, we want you guys to bid it, or you guys are gonna get this project. Is that kind of happening? I have found that, you know, if you go to a sales meeting or you go to some sort of meeting, nine to five, the meetings are what they are but then you go out and have dinner and hang out afterwards and that's when you really get into the kind of the…
(RC) I think we try not to.
(SM) Okay.
(RC) Yeah honestly at all after hours, but they're available. If we really need to or if we have something that can't last or that can't wait till the morning, we have no problem picking the phone up and they have no problems answering it. So, that helps tremendously…
(SM Yeah.
(TC) Yeah.
(RC) …in our field. Like you were saying, family. When we have like Thanksgivings or birthday parties and stuff, we invite the subcontractors and stuff. You guys are more than welcome to come over. Other framers, you know were all just…we hang out. He's got a pool at his house and we have pool parties all summer.
(SM) Right on.
…Inaudible chatter…
(SM) So Rob, I do have a question for you 'cause I was…
(RC) Okay.
(SM) …again, talking to some people last night and at dinner and they said, "Hey, did you know that Rob was the first person or one of the first people to actually install a Simpson Strong Tie Strong Wall, a prefabricated shear wall.
(RC) That's correct.
(SM) And, you know, we have mutual friends, so you could tell, as you would know, I'd be a little skeptical if they were setting me up or not, but in talking to you off air, you confirmed that that's true. Like back in the late '90s, when we, meaning Simpson Strong Tie, launched that product, you were one of the very first, if not the first, to actually install that original product.
(RC) Correct, yes, mm -hmm.
[13:45]
(SM) That's crazy. So what was that process like?
(RC) Well, I was working as a project manager for a company called H &R Framing in San Diego and we were one of the largest framers, you know, in Southern California and Simpson approached us with a new product that they wanted to bring on board called the Simpson Strong Wall and I kind of got involved and then they kind of appointed me to help them out with whatever they need. So I started bringing them to value engineering meetings, start learning the product and in turn, once they got the product dialed in and we're trying to present it to the builders and get it into the industry, we were doing some models down in Chula Vista and they said, "We're gonna give you the panels to try." And in turn, I said, "Okay, well, I want my company with our shirts to be on the cover of your next Simpson catalog, us installing those walls, and so they did and then we started using those walls from then on and we were one of the first framers that started using those walls and everybody's coming to us and asking us, well, how are they? How are they? They're simple, they're simple. You just put a wall up, bolt it down. So, yeah, no, …inaudible…
(SM) I gotta find that original marketing piece.
(RC) Yeah, I’d love to see it.
(SM) I'd love to see it too and hopefully you put that on your IMDB as, you know, cover model for ca catalog and you there's probably you know something you could put on there beyond the framing or whatever you guys were doing.
(RC) Yeah.
(SM) So, yeah I'm curious have you guys done the math? How many years combined have you guys been in this industry?
(RC) Oh geez it's got to be …
(SM) How long have you been in it?
(TC) I've been in it since 2011 or 2012.
(SM) Okay so you're looking …inaudible….
(RC) Since 1975.
(SM) So I should be able to do the math . I’m in sales five to zero. So I believe that's right around 50 years.
(RC) Yes something like that.
(SM) So just shy of 50 years?So between the two of you, you're looking at over 60 years of experience, close to 70 years of experience. [15:40]
(RC) Correct.
(SM) Have you looked back in that time? Is there something that stands out? Like what's the thing maybe individually or collectively, if you look at your career, not that it's over, but you looked at it and said “I'm most proud of this or that” is there something that stands out as I put you on the Spot with that question and you’ve got through the mental exercise here.
(RC) I've done so … I've built so many um I've built so many different things. I built custom houses for you know movie stars and pro athletes that you know you drive by that house and you look up on a hill and you know, I built that house.
(SM) Yeah.
(RC) You can remember every part of building that house when you're freezing cold or you know it rained. You remember every little item about when you built that house and I built, gosh I drive by…when these kids were growing up, we’d be driving by “I built that” “I built that”.
(TC) I was just gonna say that. It's funny, growing up, it's like, he'd always drive by, "Hey, I built that community. Oh, I built that house." I'm like, "Great, cool. All right.” “I built that.” “Yeah, I know.” And then now I find myself doing the same thing today. Now I'm like, “Oh, hey, I built that”, you know, “We built that community” and I'm like, oh, I'm doing it.
(SM) Well, I mean, that's some family. I mean, that's a sense of pride. I do that on the supply side. I'm like, I know my product is in that building right there and I was walking that project, right? So what do you guys think, maybe a better question based on that, estimate for you… for me as much as you can. How many homes or units have you guys built in your career? I mean, how many people have you built homes for? I mean it's got to be thousands upon thousands at this point, right?
(TC) Oh thousands that we've had indirect or direct, you know, contact with. I mean, me, not much directly, I'm mostly indirect, right? I’m in sales and estimating and bidding and getting awarded projects and stuff and I mean, our company does four to five thousand houses a year.
(SM) Wow
(TC) And so four to five thousand houses a year and I've been in trade for 14, 15 years. That's a lot a lot of houses, indirectly, I've had a handle in.
(SM) Absolutely.
(RC) And I'm over a hundred thousand easily.
(SM) Yeah. You guys are into six figures of how many people, like how many, just think about, have you met the families? Have you ever met anybody that you're like, oh, you're living in a house that I built outside of celebrities?
[17:45]
(TC) All the time.
(SM) Yeah? You’re just…like I would hang outside and when they came out in the morning, like casually g like, “oh, hey, what's up, I built this house, you're welcome”.
(RC) Well, I'll walk through a house or I'll be with somebody that I know and I go yeah and I start telling them bits and pieces about their house and you know “hey by the way there's a man door, you can tear out the drywall right there and you could put a door in”
(SM) And they have no idea .
(RC) They have no idea because I see it as a skeleton all the time you know. They don't see it like that.It’s covered in drywall. Yeah there's little things bits and pieces I tell them about the house and how it was built and whether it was a you know good developer or not. You know, I’d let them know, and yeah.
(SM) Yeah.
(RC) Most of them are pretty good. They're all decent.
(TC) Yeah, it's funny. I've seen all these on social media now, it's like, I see these, all my friends that I grew up with high school, you know, they're buying house in the past five, 10 years and I'm like, Oh, I know who built that. Yeah, I've built that one. I built Oh, we built that one. You know, and so it's kind of funny, we go out there and say, “Oh, yeah, I've built your house before”.
(SM) You know, that's incredible. That's got to be a cool feeling, right? I mean, just that sense of pride of, you know, building something that is lasting, right? It's tangible. It's something that somebody's using as they're dwelling. That's incredible to me. So let me ask you this because you guys are unique again in how you work together, those family ties, the extended family, which is the community here in Southern California when it comes to construction and building. If you could change something about the journey, not the destination, so everything's the same as of today, but if you could change something along the way, would you change anything and what would that be if so?
(TC) For me, I wouldn't change a thing, you know, everything that I did, even if it was a right or wrong thing, I learned from it.
(SM) Right.
(TC) …and so that was part of my journey and so I wouldn't really change that because that's who made me who I was now or who I am now. So I wouldn't change anything about the journey, actually.
(SM) Okay, Rob, how about you?
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(RC) It's a hard question, but when I got out of high school, I was still interested in, even though I was in construction framing, that's all I've been doing is framing. I wanted to become an architect. I was always involved in drawing. I draw my own plans all the time. You know, I still do, but I started going to high school I mean college to be in an architect. So I put in about a year or so and then once my professor, him and I had a talk, he goes, "Hey, you know how everything goes together. "You need to be a structural engineer." So I changed my major to try to become a structural engineer, but as I tried it, it was just too much.We were learning the CAD systems. Back then it was AutoCAD. It was just it was a lot for me plus working full-time plus I was living at the beach at the time and I was very young so I think I had more fun at the beach.
(SM) Sure.
(RC) So I ended up dropping out of about two years and sometimes I wonder if I would have kept on that path, but then I wouldn't be where I'm at today.
(SM) Right.
(RC) You know these guys wouldn't be where they're at today so I just feel like I've brought a lot of people forward with me I mean I've run into guys that are head of their departments or head of their construction companies that all started working for me back in the day. I mean I can name several of them that are running full-on running companies right now that we're working for me back in the day.
(SM) So I've got a couple more questions for you and of course a very important question that we'll end with. What advice would you give to other fathers, sons or family members that are either going into business or thinking about going into business, whether it's this industry or something else, because you guys have figured it out and as you've mentioned, part of the success that you guys have had has to be the family ties and how you guys just work together and make sure that that's always gonna keep going. What advice would you give to anybody listening to this or watching this right now that's either in the same position that you guys are in now or when you started or maybe thinking about we wanna go do business together? What's a piece of advice you could leave with somebody?
(RC) Well, mine is respect each other. Respect each other, decisions, their thoughts, and same with the family, you know what I mean? Respect each other with your families and it's all about respect. We work just fine together. I respect his opinion. He respects my opinion. I'm old school. He's new school, which when we mesh, I mean, that works well for us because I look for him, you know, for all the new stuff and he's going, "Dad, you're old school, you know, you're relaxed." You know, but I'm classic.I'm going 100 miles an hour and he's trying to slow me down, you know, and just slow down, Dad. It's okay, it's okay. Even driving wise, he tells me that all the time. Slow down, Dad.
(TC) …inaudible… we'll get there. Yeah, you know, you know, just basically, you know, like you said originally, like we started out more best friends when I was growing up, you know, it's like his friends were my friends, my friends were his friends, and we were kind of like in the same group. You know, it wasn't like a father-son relationship. [22:32]
(TC) You know, it's more of like, Hey, that's my best friend. Yeah, you know, so then you go to work for your best friend, you know, then you're kind of like, all right, it just doesn't feel like a father-son relationship reall, until we're outside of work, it's like, oh, yeah, forgot we actually are related.
(RC) Yeah, sometimes we forget we're related, actually and honestly, because we're … his friends and my friends, we always hug each other. Yeah. I mean, when we say goodbye, or we see each other, we hug each other and we've always done that throughout our whole life and we still do that to this day. So, I don't know how to explain it, but we've gotten along real well, like you said, best friends.
(SM) I love it. So you’ve talked about maybe old school and new school. What's next? What do you guys see on the horizon for you two?
(RC) Me, retiring, but whenever these guys tell me I can quit, but right now they're like, "No, you can't quit."
(TC) Yeah, right now everything’s going so well we can't let them go yet.
(SM) Yeah.
(TC) Yeah, you know, but there’s a lot going on in the industry. There’s a lot of changing a lot of technology, you know, things are things are constantly changing, you know, especially in Southern California. Yeah, you know, we're different than the rest of the nation, the way we frame the way we do things. You know, we've, we've kind of adopted a lot of the technology lately, you know. Things are not going to go the same you know as they've been in years past. You know, things are moving on to bigger and better things. Wall panels, right, for instance. You know everybody always talks about it. So the innovation is really there in this industry now.
(SM) No, I would agree. I'm looking forward to seeing what's going to happen over the next 10 years in this industry.
(TC). Oh definitely.
(SM) I always think the construction industry is about 15 years behind the rest of society in terms of adapting and adopting technology and if you look at what happened about 20 years ago when the internet really became, you know, a part of everyone's life every single day, the technology just spiked everywhere and I think we're kind of in that phase right now with construction where you're starting to see technology, AI, all of this advancement happening at a very rapid pace. So it's gonna be fun to watch and see.
(RC) But it's not quite there yet. It's not quite there. I’ll spar to that right now.
(TC) I don't know if will ever be there fully, to be honest, you know.
(SM) Well, I don't think you can get rid of the human element.
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(RC) You can't.
(SM) No, I mean, that has to be there.
(RC) Right, and I agree with that, 100%.
(SM) All right, last question. I'm gonna see if I can get a disagreement out of you two. It's my challenge. Although you guys were lock, stop and barrel with this question too.You came in here before and said, “we don't have an answer for you” and you guys both agreed on that and I'm like, well, there goes that, but we are in Southern California. We are in the entertainment capital of the world, recording this here in the O.C., Orange County. So, we're not too far from Hollywood. What movie best describes your life?
(TC) I knew he was gonna do that.
(RC) Yep, yep.
(TC) What father-son movies are there? I can't think of any.
(SM) I would say Tommy Boyd, but Jeff Moran, who we interviewed, he already said that. That's his life. So we have to take that one the table.
(TC) Let's hope not. I think you have a heart attack.
(SM) All right, what about this if we can't come up with a movie. What actor would you want to play you in a movie? If they came to you tomorrow and said we're making a movie about your guys' life and you get to pick who's gonna play you in the movie, who do you want playing you?
(TC), Man, who's the best looking.
(RC) Me it would be Charlie Sheen.
(TC) That's right .
(RC) Yeah, it's like you said, “Two and a Half Men”. I was single for a long time raising him and he was pretty much my character to a tee.
(SM) Okay.
(RC) Yeah to a tee.
(TC) That would probably describe our life, in the more personal life. Not work life.
(SM) What about you, Travis? Anybody come to mine? You can go Emilio Esteves and make it just another family affair here. [26:01]
(TC) Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I'm not sure who goes for mine, you know. Yeah, I'm not sure.
(RC) I don't even know.
(SM) All right, well, the Two and a Half Men of the construction industry, Rob and Travis Kerrick. Thank you so much for being here on Strong Conversations and thank you all for joining us stay tuned for more episodes coming soon.
(RC) Thank you.
(TC) Thank you.
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NAME: ROB & TRAVIS KERRICK